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Topic: PJ in Norwood, OH fires driver for being robbed at gunpoint |
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10/31/05 9:30:10 AM
 
This is a sad story about how little Papa John's cares about drivers. They had the nerve to fire a driver for being robbed at gunpoint. Only two days after the robbery.
http://www.channelcincinnati.com/health/5199761/detai l.html
The official reason was that the driver carried too much money. Before you agree with PJ, look a little further. The article states, "The owner said he'd violated company policy by carrying too much money. But he [driver] said he had no choice -- in the two months he'd been employed at Papa John's, he was never given a drop box." The managers were always too busy. The driver said, "Anytime you ask them for something, they say, 'Hold on, hold on.'"
This was a manager unwilling to acknowledge their own mistake. Instead, it's screw the driver.
This story burns me up in another way, as if it wasn't bad enough already. The driver in the photo was obviously not a teenager. He looks 35 to 40. Yet, the driver described his conversation with the store owner like this. "He made me feel like a little kid, like I did something wrong." The driver added, "They're just seeing dollar signs. They don't care about drivers."
For this act of disregard to drivers, Papa John's in Norwood, OH receives the tipthepizzaguy.com Hall of Shame Award for 2005. PJ's screwup is so awful, there's two months left in the year and I've already made up my mind for this annual award.
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blonde one
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10/31/05 9:38:47 AM
We've got a lot of Ohio brethren... anybody know this guy... or the store?
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jonh
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10/31/05 9:48:16 AM
That's just apalling and another reason owners shouldn't distance themselves so much from the drivers.
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Dominwhore
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10/31/05 9:49:35 AM
yeah thats pretty shjtty. unless the gm of the store he was working at banged his wife too or something. then that would be worse, but ususally they dont put that kind of stuff in the news. Bad PR
hearing about these kinds of things really gets me mad sometimes. I have worked my entire life in or around a food service business and know firsthand how the politics of the restaurants can take away from the value given by its employees. the pizza joint aint the only exception. it happens all over.
Not giving the employee an option or even a say in what becomes of him should be evidence enough to know that if you do lose money, for whatever reason, you will be terminated for violation of company policy. Heat is removed before people of importance are even made aware of the infraction. To the people who REALLY lost that money, you were never a thought in their mind at any time. yet you lose your job.
AAah, i guess nepotism does pay...
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Mockfish
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10/31/05 5:58:34 PM
I'm from Cincinnati, over on the west side, and I didn't hear about this at all. We've had a few problems but no violence (yet).
This leads me to a question I've had. Can we refuse to take runs which we feel put us in danger and still keep our jobs? Another local company had a driver severly beaten in an apartment complex which is in our delivery area recently. This same complex is a never ending source of problems and the personal risk is huge. We have had food and property stolen and one car temporarly stolen (it was found around the corner up on the curb, the driver said he must have dropped his keys when he got out)
I personally have been threatened there, but not actually accosted (yet), but other drivers have. Despite the obvious danger, our magnificent franchisee refuses to drop this place from our area. How can I make him see the light? Or how can I simply refuse the run? This is not the only place I don't want to go either.
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Sleep
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10/31/05 6:44:25 PM
that guy got a rotten deal for sure. but how exactly do you not get a drop box? when i started working, i just bought a padlock and picked a box.
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Iowa pizza
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10/31/05 6:52:29 PM
Mockfish,
Most companies have a policy you can refuse a run if you feel in danger. I don't know how it works in real life. Your manager can just say your being a trouble maker. Also the driver that ends up with the run will be pissed at you.
You could do a petition and have all the drivers signing it stating they will NOT deliver there...
IP
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boss man
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10/31/05 7:14:17 PM
We have a policy that our driver's safety is more important than our delivery policy.
If there is an area that a driver feels unsafe in
going to then there are options:
Another driver who doesn't feel unsafe can take it.
The driver can request someone else ride with them. (we've actually done this)
We determine that this area is "red-zoned" after dark and orders taken from here are carryout ONLY.
(We do this for one area not too far from the store)
If it's not particularly an area per se, but a particular customer, then that customer is carryout only.
But this is our policy and not necessarily one that DP follows.
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kevbo9
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10/31/05 9:10:50 PM
I don't work in a super bad town. It's a college town so we on't really have too many horrible places. We got a couple of Apartment complexes that look more like a prison than anything else but nobody from my store has ever been robbed or beaten up in the two years that I have worked at PJ.
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Stevearino
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11/1/05 1:55:59 AM
Is it policy of most of the big three to have lockboxes for drivers? No lockboxes at the PH where I work. But it's a franchise so I guess that might make the difference?
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Joe(Oh)
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11/1/05 2:33:29 AM
My, my, my working a PJ's in No(way-in-hell)wood cincinnati. Being a fine conisour of shabby backwater towns such as sh_tinatti all I can say is he's lucky to be alive working in THAT god awful area, he's better off with a different franchise in a better part of town.
I said it once, I'll say it again...
F_CK CINCINNATI!!!
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loco lorenzo
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11/1/05 4:45:00 AM
GEEZ! What do they expect? No drop box, so he's supposed to leave the money in spots around his car or clothes so he can still turn it in at the end of the night?
Some people...
My store does have the red zone area...covers a good 12-14 block zone..we don't accept deliveries out there past 8..(OK, but it's dark at 5/6 now due to the time change..so that's much safer. People don't think about robbery until they're really hungry...) We do have a policy with the local cops that they can show up and walk with ya to the door if you don't feel safe...(Ok, so if it turns out to be OK, say goodbye to a tip...since Barney Fife had to come up with you...)
I dunnoo...I think my store is just waiting for one. No robbery in 3 years...4 over 9 years...law of averages says we're due. Just don't let it be me.
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wander
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11/1/05 5:23:40 AM
Thats a major law suit. They have no right to fire the driver just b/c he wanted to drop money in the drop box.
THIS IS WHY MY BUSINESS IS GOING TO GET BETTER. I'm tired of these woosies who do nothing and care so much more about the product and profit then people employed. I'm tired of excuses from the fony delivery charge to this bull crap.
All the big companies suck and thats just ashamed. It starts from retail as well as in this business. No wonder why this country is going down hill.
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blonde one
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11/2/05 9:18:15 PM
Hunh. Just found out my "old" store (I just got transferred- yeah!) got robbed right after closing Sunday night. Seems the driver (yeah, you guessed it-- it was "Dick".) neglected to make sure the door was pulled tight/locked.
Personally... I smell a fsh.
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